Mumia Abu-Jamal
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JR Interview w/
- Angela
Davis
- on
"Jailhouse Lawyers"
- Datum: Freitag, 24. April 2009 16:25
-
- via: Greg Ruggiero
- ===============
- In Her Own Words: An interview wit'
Angela Davis
- Source: The Liberator Magazine
- http://weblog.liberatormagazine.com/2009/04/in-her-own-words-interview-wit-angela.html
- [2-day liberatormagazine.com featured
story]
-
- JR Valrey is the Minister of
Information for the Prisoners Of
- Conscience Committee, an Oakland based
organization founded by Fred
- Hampton, Jr. with the mission to
liberate the minds and hearts of
- African and colonized people. The POCC
takes the stand that all
- prisoners are political. JR is a
regular contributor to The Liberator.
-
- In Her Own Words. An interview wit'
Angela Davis: Angela Davis is a
- legendary political activist professor
in the U.C. System who has a
- history of resistance. She is a former
political prisoner who has done
- work with the Communist Party, and she
is also author of 8 books
- analyzing race, class, and gender. She
also is a cofounder of the
- prison abolitionist group, Critical
Resistance. She recently wrote a
- foreword to political prisoner Mumia
Abu Jamal's new book "Jailhouse
- Lawyers", in which the Block
Report did an interview with her to help
- promote.
-
- I was first taught about Angela Davis
being a political prisoner,
- later on the first jailhouse lawyer
that I met through the mail was
- her codefendant who is still locked
up, Ruchell Magee, whom I used to
- write occasionally. So this book gave
me a better insight into what
- life as a jailhouse lawyer really is
like. I dug the fact that Mumia
- picked a subject that is rarely
discussed on this side of the walls. I
- learned a lot and it wet my appetite
to wanting to learn more about
- these legal warriors. Check out Angela
Davis as she talks about her
- foreword in Mumia's new book, in her
own words...
-
- M.O.I. JR: I want to talk to you today
about your foreword in Mumia
- Abu Jamal's new book, "Jailhouse
Lawyers". Since I know a lot of
- readers do not have the book, I want
to start off with reading a few
- quotes, and I will ask you questions
in relation to the quotes. You
- say in your foreword, "Mumia
points to me what was for me a startling
- revelation. Jailhouse lawyers
comprised the group most likely to be
- punished by the prison administration,
more so than political
- prisoners, Black people, gang members,
and gay prisoners whereas
- jailhouse layers are punished by what
Mumia calls 'cover charges'.
- Historically they could be charged
with internal violations for no
- other reason that they used the law to
challenge prison guards, prison
- regimes, and prison conditions. In
your opinion what is the importance
- of Mumia choosing jailhouse lawyers to
be the subject for his new book?
-
- Angela: Well first of all, this is an
amazing book. Everyone should
- read this book. And I was extremely
excited to learn that he was
- working on a book on jailhouse lawyers
because the story of jailhouse
- lawyers is a hidden story. Most people
in this country are not aware
- of the extent to which resistance to
the regimes of prisons, state
- prisons, federal prisons all over the
country, has been shaped through
- the work of jailhouse lawyers. There
is a long tradition of
- resistance. And Mumia, himself, is a
jailhouse lawyer. And if one
- thinks about how many men and women
have used the law in order to
- challenge the prison regimes, one gets
a sense of what a powerful
- legacy that resistance is.
-
- M.O.I. JR: In another quote in your
foreword you say, "Mumia argues
- that the passage of the Prison
Litigation Reform Act is a violation of
- the Convention Against Torture for in
ruling out psychological or
- mental injury as a basis to recover
damages such sexual coercion that
- was represented in the Abu Ghraib
photographs if perpetrated inside of
- a U.S. prison, would not have
constituted evidence for a lawsuit. Why
- did you point this out in your
foreword?
-
- Angela: Many people assume that the
the P.L.R.A., the Prison
- Litigation Reform Act, as I tried to
point out in the foreword, simply
- prevents prisoners from engaging in
frivolous lawsuits. But as Mumia
- points out, it is a pointed attack on
the capacity of prisoners to use
- the law itself. It is not about
frivolity at all, it is about taking
- away from prisoners one of the only
instruments that they've been able
- to develop to challenge the whole
system. So we can't assume that
- under the Clinton administration the
P.L.R.A. was passed, and that put
- prison lawsuits to rest. It's
important for those of us on the outside
- to support the rights of prisoners to
use the law to resist the
- violence of the state.
-
- M.O.I. JR: Again to quote you, you say
in the foreword of "Jailhouse
- Lawyer", "The way he
situates the P.L.R.A. historically as an
- inheritance of the Black Codes, which
were themselves descended from
- the Slave Codes, allows to recognize
the extent to which historical
- memories of slavery and racism are
prescribed in the very structures
- of the prison system, and have helped
to produce the Prison Industrial
- Complex." Can you discuss the
importance of Mumia making this
- connection in "Jailhouse
Lawyers"?
-
- Angela: Well this is one of the things
that I really loved about
- Mumia, he knows how to make these
historical connections. He makes
- connections with what might appear to
be very dispirit and different
- kinds of phenomenon, for example he
points out that the P.L.R.A. was
- passed at the same time as the
disestablishment of the welfare system,
- and that there is a connection between
preventing women primarily from
- having access to safety nets for their
families, and this assault on
- prisoners being able to defend
themselves. So I really like the way
- that he makes those connections with
slavery. I think of the prison
- system today in this country, and
especially the system of capital
- punishment, I think of it as a
historical memory of slavery, as a
- palpable inheritance of slavery. And
as a matter of fact, the
- existence of those systems provide us
with real evidence of the fact
- that slavery was not fully abolished.
So I like the way in which he
- can show us the similarities between
the Black Codes, that were
- produced in the aftermath of slavery
to basically replicate the system
- of slavery after slavery was allegedly
abolished. And the P.R.L.A.
- serves a similar contemporary purpose.
-
- M.O.I. JR: Again, you write in
"Jailhouse Lawyers", in the last
- sentence, "He (Mumia), allows us
to reflect on the fact that
- transformational possibilities often
emerge where we least expect
- them." Why did you end your
foreword with that statement in this book?
-
- Angela: Well you know because people
don't usually think of prisoners
- in general as defending democracy.
They think of the prison as the
- underside, the underbelly, of
democracy; as the place where you send
- people who no longer have the right to
be citizens. But I think that
- what Mumia does, he manages to portray
jailhouse lawyers in such a
- ways as to persuade us regardless of
what our political persuasions
- might be, the jailhouse lawyers have
been, in a sense, on the front
- line of the defense of democracy. I'm
not talking about capitalists
- democracy. I'm not talking about
neo-liberal democracy. I'm talking
- about the kind of democracy that would
also tend to not only political
- equality, but racial equality,
economic equality, and sexual equality
- as well.
-
- M.O.I. JR: What is the importance of
us recognizing that Mumia is
- facing deathrow right at this second,
right when he released such an
- eloquent book on jailhouse lawyers?
You also pointed out in this
- foreword that he rarely speaks of
himself, so in the midst of this
- being a time of the first Black
president of America, what does
- Mumia's imprisonment, with all the
flaws in his case, say about the
- real political climate in America?
-
- Angela: Well, first of all, Mumia's
case is so important for us to get
- involved in. We have to save his life.
We have to free Mumia. And
- yeah, as many people acknowledge he
rarely uses his amazing talent and
- capacities to advocate for himself.
He's always advocating for others,
- and that is all the more reason to be
passionate advocates for him. I
- have traveled in other parts of the
world a great deal, and there are
- movements to free Mumia all over the
world. Sometimes I feel very
- embarrassed that we have not managed
to overcome the power of the
- Fraternal Order of Police for example
and the other conservative
- forces that are determined to put
Mumia to death. But this book is yet
- another reason why we need to defend
him, and why we need to use
- whatever is available to us, whatever
knowledge, whatever instruments
- are available to us to guarantee that
his life is saved and that he is
- eventually set free.
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-
- Excerpts from Mumia's book Jailhouse
Lawyer's, including Angela Y.
- Davis's complete foreword can be
downloaded as a PDF for free from
- the City Lights Web site.
- http://www.citylights.com/book/?GCOI=87286100448090&fa=complements
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